I HAVE NEVER HAD SO MANY COMMENTS ON MY BLOGS
AS SOON AS THE WORD OF SEX IN THE COMMUNITY
CAME UP.
THE PENIS IS ONLY A LITTLE PART OF OUR BODY
AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REAL LOVE,
OR LOVE OF YOUR PARTNER AS I HAVE EXPLAINED MANY TIMES
ON MY BLOGS AND THE TELEVISION PROGRAM:
" TWO JEWS ON A CRUISE ".
IT SEEMS TO BE IF YOU CAN'T DO IT,
WE, THE FRUMERS OF STAMFORD HILL AND GOLDERS GREEN,
LOVE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
THE RABBONIM OF STAMFORD HILL AND GOLDERS GREEN
ARE JUST THE SAME.
( I AM SURE THEY ALL HAVE SKELETONS IN THE CUPBOARD)
IT IS NOT ONLY IN THE YIDDISHE WORLD
BUT LAY LEADERS, LORDS AND EVEN THE ROYAL FAMILY.
THAT IS WHY WE MAKE A BRIS.
THE PENIS IS A HOLY PART OF OUR BODY.
AND WE MUST AS JEWS TREAT IT THAT WAY.
AT LEAST WE JEWS HAVE TO TREAT IT IN THAT WAY
IN EVERY SITUATION.
37 comments:
Gabi, sorry, but everyone come to my blog for news and noone is interesyed in your shtisim.
EVeryone visit my blog: ifyoutickleus.blogspot.com
I even have a write up on the chillul Hashem you caused when you made a fool of yourself on '2 Jews on a cruise'.
You are one big joke!
GOLDERS GREEN WILL SEE WHAT A JOKE I AM
WHEN I MAKE A PROGRAM FOR THE BBC
ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE TREATED A RABBI LIKE
RABBI CHAIM HALPERN.
THE GOOD THINGS HE HAS DONE IN THE COMMUNITY.
I WILL MAKE A POINT OF SHOWING YOUR BLOG
AND HOW PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE TURNED AWAY
FROM YIDISHKEIT,
AND THINK THAT,THE MORE NOT-JEWISH YOU ARE THE BETTER PERSON
YOU ARE.
I WILL FINISH BY EXPLAINING ON T V
WHAT IS A CHILLUL HASHEM AND THAT YOUR BLOGSPOT
ONLY WANTS TO PUT TO SHAME ANYBODY
WHO DOES GOOD IN OUR COMMUNITY.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU HAVE EVER DONE
GOOD IN OUR COMMUNITY ?
I KNOW THAT THE RABBONIM AND LEADERS ARE NOT PERFECT
BUT WHAT HAVE YOU EVER DONE ?
EVENTHOUGH YOU HIDE BEHIND IFYOUTICKLEUS
WE KNOW AND WILL PUBLISH YOUR NAME.
You dont know my name. Idiot.
Next move is from Rabbi GH in GG. Things are going to warm up... Gabi, no more collecting money here if you support a woman abuser.
Gaby, why dont you do a youtube session on this scandal?
New beis din confirmed. Shafran, Falk, and Fucks.
GABBY, YOU ARE SUCH AN ANTI SEMITE!
Sadigur Rov RYMF is now pushing for a new kehilla in NW london. I am coming to live there. Fed up with all this corruption.
Is this really true about R Chaim Halpern?
HILARIOUS!
בס"ד
Concerning the גילוי דעת signed by five prominent רבנים of North-West London concerning one of the רבנים of the Union of Orthodox Hebrew Congregations (heretofore referred to as the Union).
On line 2 they write that the Union is “at last in process of setting up a בית דין” which implies that they have been begging for the Union to set up a בית דין and the Union was dragging its feet. This is however far from the truth; the Rav concerned has agreed to a בית דין right from the start, and it was these very five רבנים who repeatedly pushed it off.
As a matter of fact Rabbi W. was approached by many רבנים and laymen to ensure that a panel be set up right after the ימים טובים to which he responded that he’s going on holiday and will negotiate afterwards. (An email with the above response will be presented to the בית דין if necessary). After returning from holiday he was approached once again. This time he replied, “There is no point in a panel, since there is no evidence, and therefore I have nothing to do with the case anymore”. This proves that the signatories deliberately jeopardized all attempts at forming a mutually nominated בית דין for the case.
Furthermore, on the Monday after the so-called “investigation and conclusion”, Rabbi E. agreed with the גאב"ד of the Union that should the Rav concerned step down from public position, he can continue to serve in his own Shul, and say Shiurim. Why did this decision drastically change retroactively only a couple of days later, as soon as the Union announced the forming of a בית דין? How does this fact concur with the signatories’ supposed desire that a בית דין shall be set up?
On line 7 they write that a decision was taken “after painstaking and extensive investigations”. This, regretfully, is an awfully deceitful statement, since על פי תורה, and even להבדיל in legal action, true investigating must be done שמוע בין אחיכם, which in this case was not. The accused must be present and allowed to defend himself prior to any prejudices, and definitely a decision, being made. If a conclusion was made without the aforementioned condition, to the effect that the rav is currently not fit to serve in Rabbinic capacity, then this decision can in no way be upheld either in הלכה, nor in secular court. It holds no ground. No proper חקירה ודרישה according to דיני שלחן ערוך, or with experienced professionals, was ever conducted on the matter.
Rabbi G. admitted that not only was there no fair trial, but there was no trial altogether; the conclusion was made prior to the Rav’s appearance, based on the allegations! Without kosher עדים, lies and exaggerations were accepted and used with clear intent to destroy the reputation of the Rav. Furthermore, if the decision was already made prior to the ‘trial’, why was the Rav called upon at all? Was he summoned just so they can present a façade of a trial? It is also worth mentioning, that Rabbi K. expressed to the Rav at this session, his heavy heart against him because of the milk issue etc. Can such an outspoken foe judge objectively?
The tactics employed to destroy the Rav, by forcing מתפללים to leave his Shul and by pressuring all shuls to publicly display the above mentioned document, even those who are not affiliated with the London Beth Din, is reminiscent of tactics employed by authoritarian dictators when somebody dares question their rulings. If you wish to appeal the ruling you are welcome to do so, but you’ll be destroyed before you reach the appeals court!
In light of the above we can therefore safely assume that the רבנים involved in coming to the disparaging decision, have personal נגיעות against the accused, whilst others are against the Union in general for various reasons, such as the heated dispute over the עירוב. Perhaps this is also just a continuation of the Manchester מחלוקת over 20 years ago, when the מרא דאתרא was similarly pressured to leave town with the help of one of these signatories.
In paragraph 3, the five רבנים further state that “whatever the motivation of the proposed בית דין, and whatever it may conclude…” their own conclusion calling for the immediate withdrawal of the Rav still stands. גדולי ישראל have decreed that על פי תורה, the correct way to proceed with the matter was to set up a בית דין. It takes lots of gumption to suspect that such a בית דין would have motives other than to come out with the ultimate truth עפ"י צדק ויושר.
Continuing with the statement in paragraph 3, that whatever the בית דין will concur, “We are in no doubt as to the veracity of our own conclusion that the grave allegations warrant immediate withdrawal…” brings us to question. Why would they not accept a פסק from the בית דין? The document claims that the signatories purportedly desired all along that a בית דין shall be formed? Didn’t Rabbi W. agree to this with the גאב"ד and other רבנים in a meeting at his house (being unwell to travel to the גאב"ד, after having been up Thursday night till the wee hours of the morning at one of the famous meetings)?
The idea in itself that רבנים should state that no investigation or conclusion will change their decision, is neither rational nor democratic. It brings to mind the proverb “Don’t confuse me with facts, I’ve already made up my mind”. Moreover, since the document repeatedly refers to allegations, indicating that nothing has been proven further than allegations (out of fear of a slander lawsuit this had to be admitted), then why are they not waiting breathlessly themselves for the panel’s finding on these unproven allegations. Does it make sense that רבנים who cannot identify their findings any more compelling than allegations, should choose to uphold their conclusion albeit on non comparative fact findings? Do these רבנים perhaps fear that the בית דין might exonerate the Rav completely? Are they afraid that they may have to admit that they erred, and in doing so destroyed the reputation of a reputable Rav and his entire family, in addition to generating an outrageous חילול השם?
In paragraph 4 the five רבנים are “disheartened by the totally erroneous perception created by troublemakers… that they are creating a battle between the various kehillah organizations”. Perception?! After all the above clarifications on the way they dealt with the issue, is it not clear that it is the five רבניםwho have a hidden agenda and wish to besmirch the Union, either to settle a score on the issue of the עירוב, or for personal נגיעות these רבנים have to denigrate the accused Rav. There remains no other explicable reason for the unethical and unhalachic manner in which the five רבנים conducted themselves on this particular matter.
The undersigned רבנים write in paragraph 6, that they took every precaution to prevent מחלוקת and רכילות from spreading, and regret and condemn the “inappropriate and inaccurate manner in which certain individuals have aired their views” on the matter. I wish to bring to attention that the individual guilty of spreading lies on the internet and in the media is alleged to none other than a close associate of Rabbi W.! (and a Mispallel of Rabbi F.)
Last but not least, they mention in paragraph 4, their desire to “see אחדות and merging of all קהילות in North-West London into one united body for the benefit of our families…”. Under whose guidance? For whose benefit? Let us go back in history to the first forty or fifty years post World War II. Who built up yiddishkeit in North West London? Who built the mikvaos? Who initiated חלב ישראל? Who created the Bais Yaakov schools, and the חדרים? Who introduced our bochurim to ישיבות? Who implemented and rallied for צניעות? The Union along with the London Beth Din.
At the same time there were many prominent דיינים in North-West London, for example Dayan Swift z”l, and Dayan Grossnass z”l, who were at all times accorded the greatest honor as befitting such legendary תלמידי חכמים. No individual or organization in that era ever quarreled with them and never was there מחלוקת or פירוד לבבות.
The first one to unfortunately launch a מחלוקת in the previously united community was one of the undersigned רבנים! Shall we stand idly by as he lectures us about unity and spills crocodile tears over the לשון הרע, or מחלוקת caused in this case? And while אחדות is mentioned, it is noteworthy that the אחדות that suddenly formed between Rabbi E. and Rabbi L. smacks of נתחברו מואב עם מדין; conflicting sides uniting to combat a common enemy. The fact that Rabbi E. testified against Rabbi L. in secular court is no longer relevant due to the issue of greater importance, namely ridding NW London of the influence of the Union.
It is common public knowledge that the five undersigned רבנים each have agenda’s of their own in this deliberate dispute, and it was most certainly not publicized לשם שמים. Its goal is to try to remove the Rav from North-West London, and ultimately undermine the entire Union, so that it should not be more powerful than them. They go so far as to insinuate that they wish to see the merging of all Shuls in North-West London to be united into one body under one power only; namely theirs. Is it mere coincidence that their conclusion was publicized only one week prior to the announcement of the completion of a new Shechitah under the supervision of Rabbi K., or perhaps was the allegation and decision preplanned for commercial reasons? After all, it is an old trick successfully used by pre WWI Anglo Jewry to rid itself of an acknowledged frum Rav, by spreading allegation of misconduct (as attested to in the memoirs of the London Rabbi Ferber z”l at the time).
All this sheds light on the only viable reason they saw it fit to get involved in the matter to begin with, when the Rav is not under their jurisdiction, they were never called on to intervene, and the Union was assiduously looking into the matter. The פסוק tells us that אבימלך said to יצחק: "לך ממנו כי עצמת מאוד" (Take leave from me as you have overpowered me.)
הקנאה התאוה והכבוד מוציאין את האדם מן העולם
השנאה מקלקלת את השורה
ודי למבין
Mr Tickle's name was on failed moshiach, a local solicitor. So it seems someone does know it. I am surprised at all of you giving credence to Gaby Lock. A local meshugene, thrown out of many botai midrashim. Calls himself rabbi why not pope. Most mental homes have people calling themselves that. It is true that we in the UK dont have any blogs to rant on. So we must use the few we have. And this is not moderated. So necessity makes us use it.
ANGLO JEWRY:
I HOPE YOU WILL COME FORWARD ON MY T.V
PROGRAM ON RABBI CHAIM.
AS YOU HAVE SUCH A LOT OF TRUE POINTS.
PLEASE CONTACT ME WITH YOUR REAL NAME
MY EMAIL IS gaby5706@gmail.com
IT IS A PITY THAT IN THE WORLD.
IF YOU ARE NOT FRIGHTENED OF PEOPLE
AND WRITE YOUR OWN NAME,
YOU ARE CONSIDERED A LOCAL MESHUGENE.
MR TICKLE AND ANONYMOUS ETC,ETC,
WHO ARE SO FRIGHTNED OF PEOPLE
THEY THINK THAT THEY ARE "NORMAL" PEOPLE.
IN LAST WEEKS SEDRA ( IF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS )
MESHUGE IS EXPLAINED AS DIFFERENT.
BY THE WAY,I AM A RABBI BECAUSE I CAN LEARN TORAH.
BETTER THEN LOTS OF THE SO CALLED RABBONIM
ASK THE ROV, RABBI PADWAH AND THE OTHER RABBONIM
THIS A IS FACT.
You seem to have very queer facts. Which baal habayis said you can learn never mind a rov. Youre known to ask the most stupid kashes at every shiur you attend. They only answer to humour you. We dont always farshaim meshugoim more the pity. This gives you such self importance. When you are a bor reik full of n'choshim akrabim.
No wonder R E Padwa (that is how he spells his name) gives you s'micha that he finds no fault with RCH.
How will your life change whatever the outcome of the new beit din wool you serve g__d more love your friends more pray using your heart or will life just be the same I think I know the answer
Dear Gabi
Do you not know where the CAPS lock key is on your keyboard?
Gaby, I'm not a fan of ifyoutickleus but he did not write the comments above, even though his name links to the blog. If he would have, there would be a Blogger icon next to his name (like Aaron Levy) or your replies.
Someone is trying to wind you up (known as "trolling").
Keep writing! I enjoy it.
Gaby is a legend and a communal treasure.
However on this occasion, he is betting on the wrong horse. We cant wait for the TV program as all his programs bring great respect to our community.
Unfortunately R C Halpern was caught as a woman abuser and there are approx 30 victims. Ask any GG rov and they will tell you.
Anglo Jewry - Good morning. Just for the record, I am not Velvel, nor did I post any other comments last night. If you really want, perhaps you can even ask the blog administrator to verify this through our IP addresses.
Let me get this straight. If nobody would contradict you, your opponents would have 'nothing to answer', but when several separate individuals pick apart the various strands of falsehood in your comments, they are doing it in a 'systematized psychological way'. The last person who claimed that things were being made up against Chaim Halpern in a 'psychological' way was none other than the chap pretending to be a professor from NY. A friend of yours, perhaps?
What is the 'it' you are referring to? There is no 'her'. There is rather a 'very many'. Over thirty, as you know well. In the past, women who have come forward, and there have been cases stretching back well into the 1990's (which the UOHC were informed about at the time, and they have been informed about several more since), have been demonised and/or terrorised.
What exactly are you asking the rabbonim to put in the public domain? Texts and pictures from Chaim Halpern to his victims? Just so you know who to go after? If a man had acted inappropriately with a member of your family, I'm sure you'd be exceptionally keen to plaster the town with records of their interactions. Funnily enough, there is much evidence that victims have chosen to show to those close to them; I can't say I'm particularly surprised that you are not within their circle of trust.
Indeed, one of the women who gave evidence this time has been systematically terrorised by the Halperns and their henchmen. Rabbonim who have been involved in standing up for victims of abuse have received all sorts of horrible threats.
If you don't trust these rabbonim, and they evidently don't trust you, then feel free to keep asking shaalos and sending your wife to a man who over thirty women have testified is a molester. You sound quite well suited, to be perfectly honest
IT IS HIS WORD AGAINST THESE WOMEN'S WORDS.
I DO NOT KNOW WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH
IN THE SAME WAY AS THESE FIVE RABBONIM DO NOT KNOW ! !
THESE FIVE RABBONIM HAVE TO BRING THEM TO A PROPER DETH DIN,
ACCEPTABLE BY BOTH SIDES.
ALSO WITH SUCH ACCUSATIONS WE HAVE TO KNOW THE NAMES OF THE WOMEN,
AND THEIR TRUE STATE OF RELIGIOUS OBSERVANCE.
SPECIALLY THE RABBONIM WHO ARE GOING TO JUDGE HAVE A CLEAN
SLATE AND NOT BE PREJUDGES AGAINST THE HALPERN FAMILY.
I THINK THAT WE ALL AGREE THAT THIS HATRED AND THE BIG
CHILLUL HASHEM HAS TO STOP ! ! !
WITH DASS TORAH GABY LOCK
Anglo Jewry, your rant is without any basis, one simple question, how come RYMG, RPR and RGH and RDC are personally convinced - are they also 'Nogea'??!!
Oh, i forgot to mention Dayan ADD and SF. were they also duped/nogea??
your rants also contain lies, half-truths, and misrepresentations of the facts - i wont refute them all point by point. suffice it to say that REP had ample opportunity to dela with his 'own mess' and resolutely refused to right till the bitter end.
It is quite clear that the 5 signatories of the Giluy Daas are guilty.
Guilty of overestimating the fortitude and conscience of the mispallelim of DC - not believing that they would stand by a man damned by every one of his peers.
Guilty of substantially overestimating the resolve of RPR, RDC, RYMG et al - not believing for a moment that they would cave under the pressure of an already discredited regime in SH, from which their communities are, at best, semi-detached.
Guilty of underestimating the sordid depths to which the H clan would stoop in defence of their star attraction, and of not suspecting that they would have the gall to use fifty years of arguments and jealousies that THEY initiated as a means to discredit every single non-H Rov in the neighborhood.
Guilty of overestimating the intelligence of a bunch of third-rate shtender shluffers in SH - not for one minute thinking that they would publicly demonstrate their ignorance of basic halachic practice in a pashkevill.
Guilty most of all of underestimating the depth of depravity of the accused himself - not remotely believing that he could wish to drag down his entire community and family, and not believing that he would, by his pathetic rearguard action, force into the public domain the sordid details of his depravity which might blight an entire town, the Jewish people, and potentially cause the corruption of a generation of yiddisher kinder.
Guilty as charged.
How does the 'level of religious observence' have anything to do with this?
The discussion is irrelevant, the gemara says that a talmid chacham who is shemuosoh raah (has bad rumours circulating about them) is put in cherem because it is not acceptable for a talmid chacham to put themselves in a situation where there should be such rumours. The standard expected from a talmid chacham is higher, not lower, than that expected from someone who does not lay claim to that title.
# Springtime for Halpern and Hungary #
I HOPE G=D DOES NOT LOOK AT US IN THE SAME LIGHT
AS YOU LOT WITH THE FIVE RABBONIM OF GOLDERS GREEN
LIFE IS NOT JUST BLACK AND WHITE
Anglo Porky Jewry said...
Mr Anglo Jewry aka PORKY ,
When I started reading your essay, I couldnt understand who could be writing this? Everyone knows that in NW london, there are only 2 people who still believe CH is innocent, you and your father.
The first few paras are good and have an air of integrity, and the reader could even be misled into thinking that some of the facts are remotely true.
As soon as you go on the rant it becomes clear that this is you.
Oh, and asked Manchester people who, to support their father in law, caused another rov to leave town. Yes it was your brother Chaim.
The only Rov I havent heard first hand from is Rabbi G. of Munks, all the others are convinced that your brother is a predator, so go crawl back under your rock and let justice prevail.
In your chassidic circles, all these lies and deception could work, here in GG people are seeing straight through it.
THIS WILL NOT STAND UP IN A COURT
AND WHEN I MAKE MY T.V PROGRAM
GABY TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER....
Hi gabs. I used to be an avid listener to your sunday morning program, and I sorely miss it. Now I found your blogging place, and Im gonna follow your comments, especially on the halpern case. G-D bless.
אוי חיימקה חיימקה, האסט געדארפן פאלגן די גמרא'ס עצה: אם רואה אדם שיצרו מתגבר עליו, ילך למקום שאין מכירין אותו, וילבש שחורים ויתכסה שחורים ויעשה כמו שלבו חפץ,.
האסט געקענט גיין צו זונות און טרענען און שטופן וויפיל דו ווילסט, אבער אנשטאט האסטו זיך אנגעפאנגן מיט היימישע ווייבלעך און יעצט ליידסטו דערפון.
אין אישה אלא ליופי און דאך האסטו זיך געדארפן איינהאלטן און זיך ארויסגעבן צו די נישט היימישע נשים וואס זענען אפט שענער ווי די היימישע.
Gabi you are such a KOOOKOOOOO!
After seeing yer piksher I now recognize the shmok that says the word fart on BBC. What an absolute putz you are.
GG tsadik
Mamzer, maybe you need some 'elp in typin'. When you type in all caps, you expose y'self for the imbecile you really are.You should have at least completed primary school.
I believe all religious people who are using hols in the sheet are oppressing their sexual appetite and this is why when the word sex comes up 100 people relply
TO LONG, REPETITIVE, REPETITIVE,
NO PATIENCE OR INTEREST TO READ
YOU KEEP ON REPEATING GABY LOCK IS THIS AND THAT
IT IS FOUR YEARS RABBI CHAIM IS STILL RABBI CHAIM
SO JUST FUCK OFF
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